Do us a favor and retire Younis Khan.
on October 8th, 2009 at 3:38 pmSince April 2009 Younis Khan has led Pakistan in 13 Odis out of which Pakistan has only won 5, Pakistan lost a series against Australia, an Odi and Test series against Srilanka and lost the semi finals of Champions trophy against an injury hit NewZealand team. However Pakistan did won the T20 World cup under him during this period.
Younis Khan was given the captaincy of Pakistan cricket team after a systematic campaign was launched by a lobby of journalists hailing from Karachi against Malik, they accused Malik of only winning against minnow teams, and pointed out that his personal performance was not good enough to guarantee him a place in the team, he was also accused of conspiring against senior players and forming cliques in the team.
Malik captained Pakistan team in 36 Odi’s and scored with an average of 43.75 and also took 22 wickets, Pakistan team won 24 matches under him, where as Younis Khan has captained Pakistan in 18 matches altogether and has scored @ average of only 24.
What has surprised me the most is the pattern of Pakistan team’s performance under YK, he lost the series against Australia and SriLanka from winning positions. Surprisingly, Pakistan won the dead rubber matches in both the series, The pattern of defeats and victories in both series was strikingly similar.
In Champions trophy Pakistan was considered as a 7-2 favorite against the Kiwis but due to some bizzarre planning and decsion making, Pakistan lost against the Newzealand in the semi final, earlier Pakistan performed well in all the practice matches and only lost their group match Australia just by a whisker.
Many believe that Pakistan threw away their match against Australia to oust India from Semi finals and to face a weaker opposition in the semis.
It is the third time that Younis Khan has been accused for his involvement in match fixing, he was investigated by the ICC”s ACU team in India, his team was accused of throwing matches against SriLanka and now again the Chairman of the standing committee of sports in the parliment has personally accused him and the team management for fixing the match against Australia and the Semi finals of the Champion’s trophy.
I don’t know if any of these accusations are true and the accusers have any evidence to support their claims, but the way Pakistan team was led by Younis Khan certainly deserves an investigation..
My only concern is Younis Khan’s personal performance, Younis only averaged 16.77 in the current Champions trophy , he has played 16 matches in ICC world cups and Champions trophies so far and has scored only 225 runs @ 16.07 with a highest score of 35.
Didn’t he promised to lead from the front, didn’t he said that he wants to lead Pakistan team like Imran Khan did ? I wonder what people like Osman Sami and kamran Abbassi who launched the campaign for Younis have to say now. Osman Sami still believes that team has showed a lot of improvement under him, and Kamran Abbassi rested all the blame on Yousaf. Not a word has been said about Younis Khans contionous poor form and inability to share the work load with Mohammad yousaf.
Younis Khan thinks that by playing with an injured pinky finger in itself is such an act of bravery that it should be regarded as “leading from the front” and he should be hold in the same esteem as when Imran Khan bowled with a stress fracture in his leg against India or Salim Malik batted with one hand against the likes of Marshall, Walsh and Ambrose.The only difference is that those guys performed even with the injury and Younis used his Pimky finger to hide his poor form, to me he looks like a pitiful clown who thinks he is a god sent saviour of Pakistan cricket, he has done nothing in his career so far which can make him compare himself with Imran Khan, he is an imposter.
I strongly opposed the decision to make him captain and termed it as ” Rewarding Under performance.”
What disgusts me the most about Younis is, when he comes on national Tv and tells self made stories how people on streets begged him to take over the captaincy, and also when he threatens to quit after being crticised by the public.
The fact is that Younis made factions in the team under Malik and underperformed in key matches whether it was the T20 world cup final or the South African Odi series or the Odi series against India he always underperformed in key matches. It is also a fact that Younis was publicly ridiculed in his own home town after 2007 World cup after which he was reluctant to take over a struggling Pakistan team which was also under investigation for the strange death of their coach, but as soon as things went back to normal he along with a few other seniors revolted against Malik, and the regionally biased media fully supported them in their efforts.
Any player can lose his form and all great players go through bad patches during their career, but great players always stand tall when the going gets tough, Younis has never performed in a big tournament.
My main concern about Younis is not his personal form , What bothers me most is his idiotic decision making and the bizzarre ways in which his team loses matches, it has become a behavior pattern of Pakistan team to lose matches from winning positions under YK.
People are criticising YK for his lack of form and the catch he dropped in the semi final but thats not the issue any player can do those things it’s a part of the game.
My issue is the way he sidelined Umar Akmal and Mohammad Aamer in the match against Australia, what was the point of playing Misbah ahead of Umar when he was not going to play in semi finals, his power play management during the CT was so poor that even a 9 year old could have done a better job, his decision to bat first against a Kiwi side which was completely depleted due to injuries was a serious mistake, his field placement was aweful during the semi finals he had all his ace fielders placed on the boundaries and the Kiwis kept on stealing singles. His decision to bowl out Aamer was also strange, he again marginalized the youngster first by making him bowl 7 straight overs and then not keeping his remaining overs for the batting power play.
It was a straight forward pitch full of runs, there was no movement in the pitch it only had a bit of bounce in it. Who so ever made the strategy to bat defensively during the power plays should be investigated as Kamran Akmal and Imran Nazir were clearly under the instructions not to go after the Kiwi bowling during the power plays, both the openers had the capability to unsettle the Kiwi bowlers during the power plays but the team management prevented them from playing their natural game.
The jingoistic and biased section of Pakistani media is still targeting Malik and Yousaf, not a word has been said about the poor form of Younis Khan, the way Afridi threw away his wicket and the way Umar Gul bowled. The targets are only Rana Naveed, Mohammad Yousaf and Malik.
Yousaf and Malik were top scorers for Pakistan not only in this tournament but also in the Lankan series, Rana had just one bad match and people are already after his head such is life for Punjabi players in the national team.
There are people who will say in defense of Younis that Pakistan won T20 WC under him, Big deal, we were the finalists in the previous edition and would have easily won it if he had not ran out Imran Nazir and had not thrown his own wicket to a rash shot.
Pakistan’s semi final birth in CT was almost guarnateed since WI never sent their A team and Indian team was struggling with their combination after several key players got injured.
PCB top brass is always hands in gloves with the team management, I don’t expect that they will take any tough action against Younis Khan and the rest of the under performers. Pakistan team can never win consistently until it’s middle order is replaced, Pakistan needs atleast two changes in it’s middle order, Misbah should be dropped and Younis Khan should retire from ODI’s.
Do us a favor and retire Younis Khan.
The Performance of Pakistan’s top players in ICC world cup and ICC Champion’s trophy.
| Mat | Runs | HS | Bat Av | 100 | Wkts | |
| Imran Khan | 28 | 666 | 102* | 35.05 | 1 | 34 |
| Javed Miandad | 33 | 1083 | 103 | 43.32 | 1 | 4 |
| Wasim Akram | 42 | 466 | 43 | 18.8 | 0 | 62 |
| Waqar Younis | 15 | 36 | 11 | 6 | 0 | 24 |
| Inzamam Ul Haq | 40 | 780 | 81 | 23.63 | 0 | 0 |
| Aamir Sohail | 17 | 610 | 114 | 35.88 | 2 | 8 |
| Shoaib Malik | 15 | 393 | 128 | 30.23 | 1 | 10 |
| Younis Khan | 16 | 225 | 35 | 16.07 | 0 | 0 |
| Saleem Malik | 28 | 606 | 100 | 31.89 | 1 | 6 |
| Saeed Anwar | 25 | 1204 | 113* | 63.36 | 5 | |
| Ejaz Ahmed | 32 | 570 | 70 | 23.75 | 1 | |
| Rameez Raja | 16 | 700 | 119 | 53.84 | 3 | |
| Moin Khan | 26 | 323 | 63 | 23.07 | ||
| Mohd Yousaf | 26 | 870 | 87 | 39.54 | 0 | 0 |
The average Younis Khan has in Top ICC events should he even be considered as a top player? He is a pathetic ODI player capable of scoring only on flat tracks and against weak bowling sides.
The performance of Pak captains in ICC world cup and ICC Champions trophy.
| Mat | Won | Runs | HS | Bat Av | 100 | Wkts | Bowl Av | |
| Imran Khan | 22 | 14 | 615 | 102* | 38.43 | 1 | 24 | 19.7 |
| Javed Miandad | 2 | 0 | 60 | 57* | 60 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Wasim Akram | 15 | 10 | 208 | 43 | 29.71 | 0 | 18 | 26.5 |
| Waqar Younis | 8 | 3 | 21 | 8 | 4.2 | 0 | 9 | 25.33 |
| Inzamam Ul Haq | 6 | 3 | 136 | 41 | 27.2 | |||
| Aamir Sohail | 2 | 0 | 67 | 55 | 33.5 | 0 | 1 | 29 |
| Younis Khan | 6 | 2 | 69 | 20 | 11.5 | 0 | ||
PCB
You are right about that but I doubt that he has 4 years of cricket left both Younis and Yousaf will play at Max for another year or two.
You must also remember that Younis still has between 4-6 years of international cricket left in him. 3 months of poor form and infighting agaist him should not be allowed to ruin 10 years of hard work.
Salman
We all make mistakes in judging people and I knew my response will be disappointing for you. But try to understand why YK left captaincy. Form is temporary and class is permanent a lot of people including me had issues with YK’s personal form but right now I think Pakistan team needs players with spotless integrity form is not relevant here as the inform players are picking and choosing when to perform and when not to and throwing away matches deliberately, so it doesn’t make any difference. The good thing is that if Yousaf and Younis came back into form they will win us a lot of matches and the new players will learn a lot from these guys.
We have only a few months left to prepare for the 2011 WC this is not the time to be divided we have to support our good players so that we can send a strong team to the world cup.
I’m not sure why Salman is so against Younis Khan. Salman has accused him of running out Imran Nazir on purpose and being a poor batter.
I think you must realise that Younis and Yousuf batting at 4 and 5 in Tests and ODI’s will bring stability to the team. Look what Yousuf’s return did in England at the Oval test.
wasim bhai your reply is very disapointing for me.i will talk to u after his performance against SA.
Salman
My only issue with YK was his form and his lack of diplomacy skills, but retrospectively now I believe he was right in standing up against corrupt players who were not standing against him because of team politics but were campaigning against him because he was against corruption.
There is no substitue for experience, YK is fit he is an excellent fielder in the slips and if his form improved he will prove to be an asset for the team. I know his performance in Faysal bank T20 tournament wasn’t that great but it wasn’t bad either considering the fact that he is not a T20 player we want him for the test team. I think we as fans should be patient with our experienced players, look at Ponting he was struggling last year but now he is back in form and now Clarke is out of form, if YK and Yousaf will get more exposure eventually they will get their form back.
Mirza Iqbal Baig has always been biased but I think the whole nation was supporting YK because he has no integrity issues.
I have seen marked improvement in his form I think he will do alright.
Imran Nazir and Ahmad Shahzad should have been selected but I guess Imran Farhat has a strong parchi and the captain has too much confidence in Fawad Alam.
salam wasim bhai.once again a sick cricketer younis khan is a part of team.do u think he can play against the strong side of south africa coz he was totaly strugling in faysal bank t20 against 3rd class bowlerz.who is backing him y he is so strong and media is also responsible for making this zero a hero spcly geo super and mirza iqbal baig who seems to b a commision agent of YK.do reply me wasim bhai i m so deprsd.y imran nazir alwayz being ignrd y y y?
And one more thing Malik’s test career is almost over as If Younis even makes a comeback as player there will be no place for Malik left in the test team.
Ahbd
If Malik and at leat one other player probably Misbah are not kicked out then I don’t think that Younis should come back as a captain.
And he should not even try to attempt it unless he is in his top form, two good young players in the middle order and one good opener and an inform YK can restore the balance. It will be hard for the rest of the senior players to under perform in every match.
Wasim,
Firstly, I consider Younis to be a very very good player, but not a great.
“This culture of breeding controversies will only come to an end when the fans will not protect players based on regional biases and personal favortism, and the players will stop being selfish and start acting in the best interest of the team”
I definitely agree with this, but you must also consider the ex-players – whatever minor decision is made, you can be sure someone will criticise it. I never see this with any other country – maybe with really major decisions, but not small decisions.
As far as I know, Younis is in London to attend a function and will return to Pakistan.
“The solution to the problem is that PCB should give Younis a time frame and a target until which he has to show his form”
I don’t think this is the solution. In my opinion, if he performs well enough, he’s back in, and if not, then he should be left out.
I guarantee Malik won’t be chucked out because he would have been by now because everyone knows since April what he has been up to – those who believed Qadir anyway.
Ahbd
Butt always tries to sweep every thing under the carpet and eventually makes himself look foolish. The whole world knows that there is a problem he forced Younis to give a statement negating his earlier statement of players not co-operating with him, it only tells us that the PCB establishment is also involved in corruption and wants to protect the culprits.
The whole drama could have easily been taken care of if PCB after CT had asked Younis to take rest, it’s not an unusual thing great players go through bad patches, Ponting , Lara and Sachin they all took time off many times to get their form back. Why was he so adamant to play when he knew that he was out of form and injured. Look at Ponting he faced so much criticism and now he is back in form and his team is back at #1 position. Why do we always follow a path which only satisfies our egos and doesn’t solve the problems at hand and in the end Pakistan cricket team’s reputation is tarnished by another controversy. This culture of breeding controversies will only come to an end when the fans will not protect players based on regional biases and personal favortism, and the players will stop being selfish and start acting in the best interest of the team.
As regards Younis how can he play domestic tournament while staying in England.
I criticized him earlier for not playing the domestic matches after the CT when he went for deep sea fishing. He has said that he will be back for the Australian series and Butt has also confirmed it.
Now will it be possible, I am not sure but one thing is for sure more controversies and rifts will unfold as the time progresses.
The solution to the problem is that PCB should give Younis a time frame and a target until which he has to show his form, they should kick Malik out of the team and should give stern warning to other players.
If that is not done then somebody in the top brass wants status quo as far as the core group of culprits/players is concerned and it’s not difficult to understand why they don’t want to get rid of such players.
Salman, Wasim,
Ijaz Butt also says there are no player rifts in the team, when evidently this is not true. I believe this is where problems stem from – he’s always saying stuff that is so untrue – remember Geoff Lawson?
Butt needs to be reviewed and there needs to be an entire overhaul of the system – there are too many controversies in Pakistan cricket, always in the headlines for the wrong reasons – this does not leave a good impression with fans supporting other countries.
As far as I am aware, Younis is currently taking a break and is in London, England attending functions. He has openly said that he will return to domestic cricket to try and score runs.
Under no circumstances did he say that he will lead Pakistan in Australia.
Salman
Both Khalid and Khurram are very promising players, they always score more runs more than any other player in the domestic tournaments, I am not a big fan of Salman Butt especially with his current form. Any youngster who performs in domestic cricket or with the A team deserves a chance and we should all support them.
I think it won’t be easy for him to make a come back he will have to prove his form in domestic cricket only then he will be able to make a come back, secondly it all depends on how Mohammad yousaf leads the team against the Kiwis.
salam wasim bhai.ur both teams r pretty much balanced but without one and only khald latif in both formates and khurram manzoor in one day.i read news papers n watch tv.ejaz butt is still saying that younas has given him messege to go australia as a captain.younis who cant play on dead tracks now dreaming to play with his full flow on australian tracks.how do u take dis statement or wat do u feel.wat if YK realy come back in that big tour knowing dat remaining team wouldnt like 2 play under his personal poor performance and captaincy.dis man is dreaming to play not on his performance but with the political support.God please do somethng coz whole pakistani nation want to get rid of dis YK.
Salman T20 team
1- Imran Nazir
2- Imran Farhat/ Khalid Latif
3- Shahid Afridi
4-Kamran Akmal
5-Umar Akmal
6-Shoaib Malik(Although now i don’t want to see him in any format)
7-Fawad Alam
8-Razzaq/ Naved
9-Umar gul
10-Aamer
11- Saeed Ajmal
For Odi’s
Imran Nazir
Khalid Latif/ Khurram Manzoor
Mohammad Yousaf
Kamran Akmal
Umar Akmal
Fawad Alam
Shahid Afridi
Rana/ Razzaq
Asif/ GUL
Aamer
Ajmal
thanx for ur response wasim bhai.plz tell me ur pakistan eleven(no younis khan) for one day and T20.
Salman
Welcome to Cricketfiles, Younis Khan cannot continue to play just as a captain, he has become a burden on the team.
The chairman had no choice but to beg him to take his resignation back, The general public were disgusted by Dasti’s remarks and were fully in support of Younis even the Sports journalist community was also behind Younis.
Younis ttok full advantage of that public support and was able twist the arm of the board chairman, now Younis is in full control of the team. He is not in talking terms with most of the senior players. I wonder in a situation like this how he will be able to lead the national team.
thanks God 4 atleast i get somewhere 2 express my views freely.Wasim bhai u r gr8.younas khan is zero.but our cricket board has made that person captain who has no place in one day team.he use to destroy the average n then give away his wicket when he has strong belief that from now pakistan cannot win.his performance in recent two years is pointed by every pakistani who love cricket but not by our dummy chairman cricket board ejaz butt.he is palying with the career of imran nazir who is the only brave opener pakistan is having and will have for next 6 years.but he is praising useless younis khan.how can we get rid of YK.he is the man who thought that if imran nazir will play the way he was palying in T20 world cup final 2007 pakistan will be the winner n imran nazir will be the hero for unspecified time period.he planned that run out bcoz of injured imran nazir and the result is in front of u.plz throw him out of the team but how it will be possible wasim bhai how.
younis please please leave the cricket side….you are such a ______men.
Tariq
I won’t be able to call you. If you have to say something you can communicate it through the blog.
Waseem do contact me my no 0321-8449888 i agreed with ur all statements and feel like from my mind this sucker YK just like an indian agency RAA agent to make pakistan team weaker and dont like perfect performers as he is not. I will wait for your call
Ahmed
The best captain is the one who leads from the front either you are blind or madly in love with Younis. The guy spent his whole time after the champions trophy doing deep sea fishing and did not improved his poor form and today he again scored a zero.
Younis had no role in winning the T20 WC it was Afridi, Akmal, Razzaq and Aamir who won that trophy.
What dimwits like you do not remember that we reached the finals of last T20 also and failed to win that match by a whisker.
Younis is just a dramabaaz, and idiots like you fall for his dramabaazi.
He is leading a strong team and if he is a good captain Pakistan should not have lost to Australia and SrilAnka.
YOUNIS KHAN IS THE BEST CAPTAIN AFTER IMRAN KHAN. YOU LOOSERS DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ON ABOUT. IF INZY,MALIK,YOUSAF, AKHTAR ETC WERE LEADING WE WOULD NOT OF WON THE 20/20 WORLD CUP. YOU JEALOUS GITS YOUNIS KHAN IS BIG TIME
Ahbd
Sorry for the late reply.
I think you are not accounting for the 4 matches Younis played as a captain in 2005 and 2006 in total he stood as a captain in 18 matches for Pakistan.
Anybody is innocent until proven guilty or under suspicion until proven guilty, I have said it time and again that nobody has proof for any match fixing but all the circumstantial evidence points toward the fact that some players do underperform.
If you read the statements made by different players in front of Justice Qayyum you will be surprised to learn that the same templates of underperformance are still being followed. Did we had any evidence against Salim Malik or Wasim Akram until Rashid Latif blew the whistle?
But people knew way before Rashid’s statement that match fixing was going on, you can’t blame people for suspecting them it is their unpredicable performance which raise doubts in the minds of fans, and since our team in past had this corrupt culture and we still lose matches in the same pattern there is no reason why one should believe that the current team and it’s management is comprised of saints. Their predictable unpredictability has become a behavior pattern.
Younis refused the job citing post World Cup reaction “hurt” and “mental strain” as a reason
This statement was made by Younis himself in an interview after he refused captaincy. Don’t defend him like an over zealous fan and don’t twist the facts. The man himself admitted that he was hurt by the public reaction after WC loss and does not want to captain Pakistan.
We all know how sensitive he is to criticism. He is an emotionally unstable person and he has demonstrated it more than once during his career.
YK’s average in T20′s is only 18, Malik’s average is 39. It’s true that both Malik and Afridi also couldn’t perform in the same match but look at the rest of the tournament Afridi was the highest wicket taker and Malik performed well with the bat but Yk was consistently poor.
I am not a fan of Malik the only reason I quote him is just to point out the double standards of some people.
Yousaf wasn’t banned he was awaiting clearance now expediting clearance was all in the hands of PCB and if YK was so interested why didn’t he helped him out. If PCB cleared Razzaq they could also have cleared Yousaf. You are ignoring the fact that PCB never wanted Yousaf to play in T20′s which in my opinion is fair and everybody understands it so why do some people hold it against Malik and blame him for Yousaf’s stint with ICL.
The truth is that Yousaf left only for money he did it twice, PCB did every thing to bring him back the first time they compensated his loss of income got him a contract with IPL where he made over $300,000 without playing a single match. It was very convenient for him to make Malik a scape goat as he was an easy target but it is a fact that he did all this for his personal greed.
I have never said YK is not a good test players in fact we all know what his test average is but how many match winning innings he has played? He is the leading batsman and the backbone of our batting how many test matches he has won for us like Inzi, Yousaf and Miandad, yet we consider him the saviour of Pakistan cricket.
If I am wrong about his under performance and you are right then doesn’t it proves that YK is a lousy limited overs player and a lousy captain. I am not making up his statistics his average in T20′s is 18. His average in all WC and CT matches is just 16.07. Since he over took from Malik he is averaging 24 in Odi’s. We all crucified Malik for his batting although as a captain he was averaging 45 and was also playing the role of a part time bowler but most of the pundits and Younis fans even questioned his place in the team, my point is where are those high standards now don’t they apply on Younis.
How I am a twart, when you didn’t mentioned the name of the tournament how I am supposed to know which tournament you are talking about.
If you think that an average of 18 is a big accomplishment then I guess the title of the biggest twart belongs to you.
Malik did opened the innings, he failed and after one match Younis pushed him back and kept on changing his batting position, he batted at #3, #4 and #5 under Younis, all he said was that “if you want me to open then give me a stint of 10 matches and allow me to adjust to that position” which was fair. In past Afridi has made similar complains nobody criticized him.
It was Qadir who pushed for Aamer but Younis preferred Shoaib Akhtar for the Odi series against Australlia only after Akhtar failed Younis had no other choice but to continue with Aamer.When Qadir was confronted by the media why he didn’t selected Nasir Jamshed and Aamer he said that Younis wanted a more experienced bowler and he wanted to give Shoaib Akhtar one more chance.
Everybody seems to take credit for Aamer’s success the fact is that it’s his own hard work and talent which enabled him to cement his place in the team. Credit should only be given to Mudassar Nazar and a bit to Aqib Javed these are the players who helped him in polishing his skills at the Academy.
Like an over zealous fan I think you blindly trust the statements made by different players and officials. I can show you a few statements made by Sultan Rana in which he is denying that the team management ever asked Younis to play with a broken finger, now who is telling the truth nobody knows.
Ultimately it’s a captain’s own responsibility if he thinks his injury will not hinder his team’s progress he should play and if he fails to perform then he has to face criticism.
You are mistaken, I have never blamed him for dropping a catch or made an issue of his playing with the injury, I have said it many times even a fit player can drop a catch you can go back and read.
In this case I have criticized him for playing when not only that he was unfit but was also out of form, he should have sat out there was no way that he could have made any difference he only played for his own ego.
Look at Vettori he was also unfit but he made a difference in every department of the game and won his team an important match he was only able to do that because he was in form.
As regards ridiculing other writers, You are dead wrong here, I am a great admirer of Osman and Kamran Abbassi but I am not their blind follower I do not follow their words as if they are set in stone, they have their biases and moments of misjudgement.
My only disagreement with them is that at times they are displaying double standards in judging different players, Osman seems to have close friendship with younis because I never saw him so over zealously running a campaign for any player. I have never seen him ignoring or covering up the poor performance of a player his articles are very balanced but in this case I am sorry to say either he is giving a lot of margin to Younis or he is being biased. But whatever it is a reputed journalist like him should not ignore such an important point which such as Yk’s poor decision making and his performance in the match against Australia and the match against NewZealand.
No doubt Younis is a better player than Malik or Afridi, but has he been able to lead from the front, I don’t think so, have you read a single word of criticism about Younis Khan’s performance as a batsman from Osman or Abbassi, they used to crucify Malik for his performance. What happened now the same standards do not apply on Younis Khan.
Through out this CT Kamran Abbassi crucified Yousaf, fair enough he expected more from him but doesn’t Younis enjoys the same stature in the team why we didn’t put pressure on him. Look at the top batsmen in the Srilankan test series and the CT, you will be surprised they are Malik and Yousaf yet these two guys have recieved the most criticism.
In bowlers everybody is picking on Rana after one bad match, but what about Omar Gul he was totally off color in this tournament. Razzaq was dropped after one poor performance in an Odi in SriLanka go check the records. Nobody is criticizing Afridi for his performance, I think he also seriously under performed in the semi finals.
Now why did all the players chose to under perform in Semi finals?
Why the power play was left for the tail enders?
Afridi, Rana, and Gul all played ugly shots after hitting one boundary, do you think they are not professionals and they didn’t had match awareness.
Afridi knew he could take power play but he didn’t, you saw him batting in T20′s and you saw him batting in Semis don’t you think their was a marked difference in attitude and batting style.
When about 30 runs were required YK had no third man in place and gave away easy runs in that area.
He bowled out Aamer way too early. When he saw that Kiwis were just content on taking singles he didn’t applied pressure by bring in his ace fielders in the circle, Malik, Nazir and U Akmal were all fielding on the boundary.
Malik bowled three good overs and YK changed him and brought Rana who bowled a horrible over but YK persisted with him.
In the match against Australia why was U Akmal not allowed to bat above Misbah especially when Umar won us the match against WI, he only faced 4 deliveries in that whole match.
Why was Aamer rested in that match.
Look at Wasim Akram’s and Salim Malik’s tenure they always used to marginalize the in form players when they wanted to throw the match.
People like you don’t understand one thing the form of a player doesn’t change with in a span of two days, I understand even an in form batsman can get out on a low score if he gets a good delivery but the range of strokes doesn’t get affected of an in form batsman, the way a few players waste deliveries and don’t play their strokes is strange. Same way a bowler can get injured or he may struggle to bowl in new conditions but an in form bowler will never struggle with his length or line with in a span of two days and an in form bowler will never hold his wicket taking deliveries.
How many yorkers did Rana and Gul bowled in the Semi Final?
Why were they both struggling with their run up? Why they were gifting poor deliveries in a low scoring match. Wasn’t it the same pitch where second string Kiwi bowlers and Aamer was bowling perfectly.
How many wrong ones did Afridi bowled, how many faster ones and how many sliders? These are not street players they all have almost 10 years of experience in International cricket. If this is not underperformance then I don’t know what other signs people like you need to get convinced.
If a 17 year old and a number 11 batsman can play their strokes without much difficulty then what the fuck was wrong with YK, Yousaf, Afridi, and Malik.
Why was Nazir instructed not to play his natural game.
You might not see all these things or might prefer to turn a blind eye because of your liking of certain players or the team but this whole drama is happening too frequently for me to not raise my voice against it.
Life won’t be easy for Yk now his every performance will be judged very critically, I know Pakistan will thrash the Kiwis in Dubai and will restore some goodwill of these players but underperformers will return in the next series, such has been the behavior pattern of Pakistan team which has become quite predictable.
Look I am not a fan of Malik nor I have any agenda against Younis. I am only against player power and the senior mafia. The only reason I even quote Malik is because I want to highlight some double standards of a few cricket pundits.
Wasim,
“underperforming corrupt players” – what, now he is corrupt? You seem to be quite knowledgeable, why not back this up with some actual evidence? Don’t go accusing players without any evidence. If it’s your opinion, keep it to yourself. Fair enough if you disagree with his captaincy/place in the side… etc. but these accusations are a step too far.
“Younis khan declined the captaincy offer because it was the most difficult time to lead Pakistan team. Younis refused the job citing post World Cup reaction “hurt” and “mental strain” as a reason. He took the easy way out” – Once again, you’re completely missing the point. It was Bob Woolmer who got Younis to where is now. Younis wasn’t a regular in the team, but Bob made him vice-captain, and it is only after that Younis’ career has really started. Younis was hurt – he didn’t play for Pakistan in the next couple of series after the World Cup. Who is it till this very day who keeps dedicating trophies to Bob Woolmer?
“Your bradman scored only 24” – still the third highest score. What about Malik’s and Afridi’s contributions in the very same match? As much as I think they are very good players, they made little contribution. Ok, fair point about Ajmal.
“could you care to explain why Yousaf didn’t played the T20 WC under Younis? And why Razzaq was dropped after a successful T20 tournament?” – Yousuf was still banned. The dropping of Razzaq was a bad decision – simple as that. Not everyone’s an Einstein like you, people make mistakes – they thought Razzaq seriously underperformed in Sri Lanks so they dropped him, simple as that.
“Let me give you a math lesson.
No of Odis won as a captain =7
No of Odis played as a captain =18
7/18= 0.38888”
Well, you got that wrong again. Pakistan have only played 14 ODI’s under Younis:
5 against AUS, 5 against Sri Lanka, 4 in ICC CT. They won 6/14 = 43%.
Under ICC regulations, warm ups don’t constitute an actual match – as reflected when 14/15 players participate.
he had the 9th highest average in the whole tournament. 7th highest strike rate. 3rd highest average behind afridi and akmal (who mainly batted in powerplays at the top). Younis also came out at about no. 5 most of the time Now you are making me crack up, 9th highest average and 7th highest SR.Numnuts, Younis averaged 17.66 in this tournament with a SR of 50.47 –
You must be the biggest twat ever – anyone can realise I was talking about the T20 WC.
Now let me make a few points:
The fact that you wake up and write on here at 6.26 in the morning sums up your character. Wonder what’s in your dreams?
You wanna here more about Younis and Aamer. Also, you wanna know more about how much a captain can influence selection, and not just 1/2 players.
Younis is the one who made sure Malik, Yousuf and Aamer played, when the whole management was set on dropping them. He also made sure Rana played. Younis has always backed every player, unlike Malik (as much as I like him), he was very disrespectful.
Read this link – http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/top-stories/Several-reasons-responsible-for-Younis-resignation-Sources/articleshow/5121449.cms
You seem to think you know quite a lot, but actually Younis didn’t want to play in the semi-final. It was actually the team management who forced him to play. It’s pretty difficult to match fix when you’re not even playing. It’s also pretty difficult to match fix when you send an in-form player like Malik to bat at number 3.
Read this link – http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/top-stories/Several-reasons-responsible-for-Younis-resignation-Sources/articleshow/5121449.cms
Also, you seem to think it’s Younis causing all the factions. Well, you’re wrong again – its Malik. Before the ICC Champions trophy, he did a good old media stunt, “I want to open the batting…”. So tell me why when Younis asked him to open the batting, he said no. He disobeyed a direct order from the captain. Has Younis ever done this?
Read this link – http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/cricket/08-i-never-blamed-team-management-malik-ts-07
Also, to make further the point about Malik – what did Qadir and Yousuf say about him? You seem to be avoiding this question. Another question you seem to be avoiding is Younis’ captaincy stats – ODI’s are just one part of the story. Overall, his average is well over 50%.
You also seem to be ridiculing other writers – one of them who actually travels with the team everywhere. Don’t you think he actually knows what’s going on?
The point about the ex-captains – they ALL still back him. Doesn’t matter what they MIGHT do, they back him now.
Above all Younis is honest, he admitted his poor form, he asked to be left out, he ran out probably the most dangerous looking Indian player with the same finger – no-one seemed to complain then, but now he’s getting all this abuse. He’s been accused by people like you of match-fixing three times – you think they match fixed in Sri Lanka? Get real. What, they point it out to the ICC and then hope the ICC doesn’t find out about the match fixing?
Ahbd
Listen numnuts I don’t have any respect for underperforming corrupt players.
If you don’t agree with my writings you always have the option not to read nobody is forcing you to do that.
Let me refresh your memory.
Younis khan declined the captaincy offer because it was the most difficult time to lead Pakistan team because of the Woolmer death investigations and the WC defeat. Younis refused the job citing post World Cup reaction “hurt” and “mental strain” as a reason. His effigy was burned in his own home town after his poor performance in the WC 07 he recieved threats from people and was insulted by the fans. He took the easy way out.
I think you are suffering from selective amnesia.
It was Younis Khan’s call and he knew Nazir was carrying an injury and was incapable of running fast so why did he made that call and immediately start dashing toward the other end leaving Nazir with no option. It’s an old trick get your well set partner out and then throw your own wicket soon after, thats exctly what Youns did. Go read the testimonials of different players in front of justice Qayyum and see for yourself how many times this trick has been used in the past. Your bradman scored only 24.
“So why was Aamer on the blink of the end of his cricket career “way before he took the captaincy”? “
I don’t know what the fuck you want to say here. Only a complete imbecile won’t understand that if a bowler has two consecutive back stress fractures he can’t play. Aamer was selected under Malik but got unfit before playing a single match.
As regards Ajmal he played only 4 matches under Malik and his bowling average and economy rate was pretty consistent with the rest of his career so how the fuck you ruled out that Malik didn’t knew how to use him only a genius like you can figure that out.
Tell me dumbass, Why do people move from one job to another? The answer is simple, more money. Any person who thinks that there was any other reason for these players to move is a complete idiot. A captain can only influence the selection of one or two players in the team no matter how strong he is, Malik never had the authority to influence the selection so that logic of yours that he could have prevented that exodus is completely retarded. How was Malik supposed to convince all these players not to go, Probably by guarnateeing each and everyone a spot in the team.Right genius.
No board was able to lure back it’s players untill ICC and BCCI softened their stance regarding the rebel players, I don’t see any role played by Younis in the facilitating the comeback of these players he just got lucky.
Btw Numnuts could you care to explain why Yousaf didn’t played the T20 WC under Younis? And why Razzaq was dropped after a successful T20 tournament?
You are an insult for University of Warwick.
Let me give you a math lesson.
No of Odis won as a captain =7
No of Odis played as a captain =18
7/18= 0.38888
he had the 9th highest average in the whole tournament. 7th highest strike rate. 3rd highest average behind afridi and akmal (who mainly batted in powerplays at the top). Younis also came out at about no. 5 most of the time Now you are making me crack up, 9th highest average and 7th highest SR.
Numnuts, Younis averaged 17.66 in this tournament with a SR of 50.47 and you are bragging about that, it seems you are truly in love with him, does he comes in your dreams too.
Odi average of 33, is that great btw, he is averaging only 24 since he took over captaincy and has averaged only 16.07 in all the WC and CT matches he played. He occupies the #3 slot which is the most important batting position for any team, have you even tried to compare his average with Ponting, Sangakara, Sachin, Guptill and Kallis.
Everybody becomes wise after seeing the results, these Ex players one day they praise a player and the next day they crucify the same player don’t try to read too much in their statements.
Wasim, I have nothing against any player. I just don’t like the way you talk about Younis without any respect.
Now, let me answer all your dumb questions:
Who created factions when Malik was captain – any slug with half a brain would know that if Younis wanted to be captain, he would have accepted it when they offered it to him before they gave it to Malik. He took it after Malik because Pakistan cricket and the country also was suffering.
Who under performed in the key matches of every series played under Malik? In the biggest match under Malik’s captaincy, he made the third highest score. Oh, by the way, get your facts straight slimeball, Nazir got run out because he himself was slow to react – Younis hit the ball to mid on and was running to the danger end, Nazir was running to the safer end.
Ajmal and Aamer became stars way before Younis took captaincy get your facts straightened – really? So why was Aamer on the blink of the end of his cricket career “way before he took the captaincy”? If you knew what you were talking about, it was Younis who pushed for Aamer to be in the squad. As for Ajmal, Malik had no idea how to use him. There’s no point having a terrific player in the team if you can’t get the best out of him. We know from the T20 and ICC trophy how effective Younis was. Enough said.
How can you give credit to Younis for bringing back ICL players – so why did Nazir, Yousuf, Razzaq, Rana…… all leave? Yousuf was still in tests/odi. Nazir was in odi. Rana was in odi. Razzaq was in odi. And OK fair enough, the ICL was bankrupt, but answer why a whole international Pakistan team joined the ICL – just look at what Yousuf said when he left – Malik (as much as I like him) had no respect.
his W/L ratio is only 38%. – Tests: Drawn (60%) Lost (40%)
ODI: Won (43%) Lost (57%)
T20: Won (79%) Lost (21%)
I think this says all that needs to be said about your maths. Younis’ is still well over 50, if you’re struggling to work that out.
Younis was as pathetic as he always is. – he had the 9th highest average in the whole tournament. 7th highest strike rate. 3rd highest average behind afridi and akmal (who mainly batted in powerplays at the top). Younis also came out at about no. 5 most of the time. Pathetic as he always is – lets see his career averages:
Test – 50.09 (SR 53.73)
ODI – 33.58 (SR 76.31)
T20 – 25.41 (SR 124.85)
If that’s pathetic, I’m really starting to wonder what the worlds coming to.
So answer my questions:
Why did Yousuf, Razzaq, Nazir… all leave?
Why are your “fact and figures” so wrong with his win percentages?
What about his career averages?
Have you ever seen him criticise a player?
What did Abdul Qadir say when he resigned?
What did Yousuf say when he left in 2007?
Why is every former Pakistani captain backing him – Imran Khan, Inzamam, Rameez Raja, Wasim Akram, Abdul Qadir… – let me give you a clue – they know him a lot better and they know what’s going on in the camp.
Let me give you another fact:
T20 World Cups:
Malik: 0/1
Younis: 1/1
Ahbd
Or whatever your real name is, Who created factions when Malik was captain?
Who under performed in the key matches of every series played under Malik?
Ajmal and Aamer became stars way before Younis took captaincy get your facts straightened. How can you give credit to Younis for bringing back ICL players, that league became bankrupt at the right moment and ICC decided to give the players another chance, but what simpletons like you do not understand is that despite leading a full strength team his W/L ratio is only 38%.
Where were we before? You tell me. We reached the finals of T20 WC but failed to win it because YK threw away his wicket and ran out his partner.
Malik’s W/L ratio out of 36 matches was close to 70%. I understand most of the matches played under him were against weaker teams but take out all those matches and still his W/L ratio was above 50%.
The T20 World cup was won by Akmal, Afridi, Aamer and Razzaq. Younis was as pathetic as he always is.
Just by writing with a CAPS LOCK on if you think you know more about the game then you are mistaken, it is fools like you who worship these corrupt players and as a result we never get rid of them. YK has always been a 3rd class ODI player, and I proved it with facts and figures. If the blunders he committed were unintentional then how can you give him credit for being a great captain, just because we beat a struggling Indian team and reached the Semi finals of CT and mind you YK sucked in that match too if it was not for Malik and Yousaf we would have lost that match.
I THINK YOU ARE ALL WRONG.
YOUNIS KHAN IS SOMEONE WHO IS HONEST, AND THAT’S WHAT PAKISTAN CRICKET NEEDS.
YOUNIS IS NOT THE ONE WHO CREATED FACTIONS – WHY DO YOU THINK ABDUL QADIR RESIGNED? WHY DID THEY SACK MALIK? WHILST MALIK PLAYED WELL, HE NEVER LED THE SIDE WELL APART FROM THE T20 CUP
IT IS UNDER YOUNIS’S LEADERSHIP THAT AJMAL, AAMER AND UMAR AKMAL HAVE COME THROUGH. IT IS ALSO UNDER YOUNIS THAT AFRIDI HAS NOW BECOME A REAL THREAT. UNDER YOUNIS THAT THE ICL PLAYERS CAME BACK.
REMIND YOURSELVES OF WHERE WE WERE BEFORE YOUNIS BEFORE YOU CRITICISE. YES, HE HAS UNDERPERFORMED SLIGHTLY, BUT HE MAKES THAT UP IN HIS CAPTAINCY – AFRIDI STRUGGLED IN THE WEST INDIES MATCH.
PLEASE DON’T FORM OPINIONS ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY PAKISTAN CRICKET ALWAYS SUFFERS – FOOLS LIKE YOU JUST ALWAYS PUT A DOWNER ON EVERYTHING, EVEN THOUGH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO AFTER WINNING A T20 AND REACHING SF IN CHAMPIONS TROPHY.
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I also think that Younis is just becoming another Strauss, but somehow I have a feeling that he can bat but under performs in Odi’s.
Wasim,
Much was made of Younis’ injury at the beginning of the Champions Trophy and I’m afraid we may have been better served had he missed the tournament all together. He has scored just two 50s in his last 15 ODIs and managed scores of just 20, 18 and 15 in the three games he played in this tournament. Not only that, whenever he came in the run rate suddenly plummeted.
With an ODI average of just 33 at a strike rate of 76, there are players in world cricket who are less hyped up than Younis Khan but perform much better. Should Younis call it a day on ODIs? Well I certainly think he should begin thinking about it as Misbah or Fawad Alam could easily take his batting place and we have a new star in Umar Akmal who will be a regular from now on.
In some ways it’s like the Michael Vaughan scenario where Vaughan only kept his place in the England team because of his captaincy. The thing is though, Vaughan was a much better captain than Younis is so we have to ask what is Younis’ purpose?
I don’t know why he is so highly rated. He never middles a ball and is the world’s foremost expert at finding the fielder on every boundary ball bowled at him. Have a look at his batting and you will notice that he and Kamran Akmal are the best at smacking the ball straight at the in fielder like inept, brainless cricketers who cannot think about their game.
We have a captain in Afridi ready and waiting to take over. He is the current t20 captain and did well when he took charge of the 50 over game against the Windies. It’s about time Younis was really brave.
You are right SP, Malik and Yousaf’s partnership won us the match against India.
Younis Khan very cleverly used his finger injury to hide his poor performance in the CT. The fact is that he failed against Australia, he failed against SriLanka and now he failed in CT. His batting record since he overtook the captaincy reflects every thing. His poor form is causing a lot of problems for Pakistan.
Even Misbah Ul Haq is averaging better than Younis in this tournament.
i don’t know about the other details but what do i know is that he virtually reduced pakistan to 10 players in champions trophy… there is very thin like between being brave… and ignorant fool hard… luckily for him pakistan won the match against india otherwise his antics would have been exposed even early… its one thing when you don’t have options its another to ignore them to make yourself hero…
at least it would have given pakistan a fair shot at CT coz as it was apparent he was more looking to protect his injured finger even when batting or fielding…